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Poster: Mystic550 Date: Sep 17, 2010 5:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

I checked the cumulative catalog for 1960 to 1969 and didn't find any registration.

I also checked USCO for
Mill of the Stone Women USA
Il mulino delle donne di pietra (original title)
Drops of Blood (undefined)
Horror of the Stone Women (undefined)
The Horrible Mill Women (undefined)

The only thing I found there was an ILM library sale and purchase, but no registration or renewal. I don't think it would be eligible for Gatt since it was never registered.

Title appears in Document: List of Titles"
Type of Work: Recorded Document
Document Number: V3531D722
Date of Recordation: 2005-11-08
Entire Copyright Document: V3531 D722-723 P1-11
Date of Execution: 05Jun05; 08Jun05; date of cert.: 14Oct05
Title: A boy and his dog (1975) & 299 other titles (part 001 of 002); motion pictures.
Notes: ilm library purchase and sale: quitclaim and assignment agreement.
Party 1: John Carr.
Party 2: AIM Group, LLC.
Links: List of Titles

Names: Carr, John
AIM Group, LLC.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Sep 17, 2010 7:09pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

Might be ok, but I did see what looked like a valid notice in the opening credits. I might put it up if no one else has any info. The notice looked like it was added later.

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Poster: tristero Date: Sep 17, 2010 10:13pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

Between this and I Bury the Living, it's good to see some new blood (so to speak) in Sci-Fi/Horror. Thanks!



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Poster: guyzilla Date: Sep 18, 2010 4:55pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

Gotta make sure it's OK first. I have some small doubt about this particular copy, but it's ready to go if I don't hear anything otherwise.
UPDATE: I found an older copy of this film. It has a DIFFERENT copyright notice, simply "copyright" and the year in Roman numerals. I don't know if that makes any difference on it's status. Would that make it inelligible for GATT?

This post was modified by guyzilla on 2010-09-18 23:55:12

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Sep 18, 2010 5:44pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

A proper copyright notice (USA) needs 3 things: the word copyright or its symbol ©, a date, and a name. As far as its GATT eligibility, I have no idea.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Sep 18, 2010 5:51pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

Thanks for jumping in. I know this is the rule for US films but this GATT thing makes it a different ball game. Mystic550 says this movie was never registered so it might squeek by. We'll see. I'm going to be out for the weekend so it's going to be a day or two before I'll be able to put it up anyway.

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Poster: HektorT Date: Sep 19, 2010 11:07am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

This film was first published outside of the USA and not published inside the USA until 3 years later. Its copyright holders are not American, so it is eligible for GATT. If no NIE has been filed, then it might "squeak by" but if it has or if it has no copyright notice then it will not squeak by. Note that for GATT eligible films, under the currently applicable rulings not having a copyright notice means that the film is not PD.

The objective of the GATT treaty allowing films to regain copyright status was to allow works that had been incorrectly registered, had invalid notifications or not registered at all to regain their copyrights because the requirements had been unreasonably difficult (from an international point of view). So an invalid notice has no bearing on GATT eligibility

This post was modified by HektorT on 2010-09-19 18:07:55

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Sep 19, 2010 1:29pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

OK, thanks for the info. I generally have one rule I follow when I upload, and that is when I have any doubt at all about a film's status I'll refrain from uploading it. So I think I'll hold off on this one for now. If Video Cellar or Moongleam give me any word that it is PD, I'll put it up. In the meantime, when I get home to my own computer, I'll put up "The Yesterday Machine", and you should see it here by tomorrow morning. Hope I get some confirmation on this one, though.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Sep 18, 2010 6:09pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Is 'Mill Of The Stone Women' PD?

It'd be nice if Video-Cellar would comment, and clear up whether it has been GATTed.